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Butch Dalisay Uncovers Tampering of NCCA Guidelines

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The guidelines that govern the National Artist Awards can be found on the website of the NCCA here. I return to this page frequently to check the criteria with which to measure the qualifications of Carlo J. Caparas.

When I returned to the page just a few days ago, I noticed insertions were made into the guidelines since I last saw it but made no mention of it.

Good thing Butch Dalisay spotted it as well, and SAVED a copy of the original guidelines. Butch Dalisay believes, as I believe, that the guidelines were modified in an attempt to trump the case filed before the Supreme Court in favor of Malacañang.

You can read Butch Dalisay’s account of the tampering here.

You can see an unmodified version of the guidelines here, via the Internet Archive.

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101 Responses to “Butch Dalisay Uncovers Tampering of NCCA Guidelines”

mico suayan on September 1st, 2009 11:35 am

GRABE na to! Corruption is everywhere and napaka garapalan na! Nakakahiya Malacanang! Nakakahiya maging pilipino ngayon!
Jose Mari Lee on September 1st, 2009 12:22 pm

Hay, Mico. Tinamaan mo. Very disillusioning. Huwag lang may magkamaling mag-email na Pinoy sa CBS para gawing katawa-tawa na naman tayo ni David Letterman. Lalo na yung parteng: WHAT? A NATIONAL ARTIST DOING HIS ROUNDS SHOWING HIS MOLDY DRAWINGS TO PROVE THAT HE IS A VISUAL ARTIST?

Nakapangingilabot! Masahol pa ito sa GABI NG LAGIM ni BEN (OA) DAVID na: OOOOH… HINDEEEEEE! NGITNGIT NG MGA IMPAKTO. HALINGHING NG MGA MALIGNO!

Pwe! Nakakahiya talaga.
Gerry Alanguilan on September 1st, 2009 12:35 pm

Talk about changing the rules of the game when the game has already started. Sino nga ba nagsabi nun?

Yes, very disillusioning. At the same time, you feel good that a lot of people are noticing it and speaking out against it.

What’s bad is if all this is happening and no one is saying anything about it.
mico suayan on September 1st, 2009 12:51 pm

Malacanang really pulled a fast one on us…Good thing Mr. Butch Dalisay is ever vigilant. Hope this backfires to the scum of the Palace!
GabbyD on September 1st, 2009 1:07 pm

i agree, this is is weird. thanks for publicizing this.
Kapre on September 1st, 2009 1:42 pm

Nakita na ninyo, ILLEGAL na inalis ninyo ang LEGAL na presidente na si Estrada at pinalitan ninyo ng ILLEGAL na presidente na si Arroyo, at binotohan ninyo si Arroyo para gawin LEGAL siya. Ngayon ay puro ILLEGAL ang ginagawa ng mga galamay niya. Bakit hindi kayo LEGAL na magprotesta tungkol dito?

Iyan ang RESULTA, ang bunga ng ILLEGAL na gawain sa huli ay ILLEGAL rin. Sino ba ang dapat sisihin sa mga ILLEGAL na gawain ng mga galamay ni Arroyo? Di ba kayo na nagpasimula sa ILLEGAL na protesta ninyo sa kalsada para alisin si Estrada, ang ipinalit ninyo ay si Arroyo, at itong si Arroyo ay kumuha ng mga galamay niya na gumawa ngayon ng ILLEGAL na gawain para palitan ang mga patakaran tungkol sa NATIONAL ARTISTS.

Pero bakit pinalitan ang patakaran ng mga galamay na ito, hindi ba kayo nagtataka? Dahil hindi puwedeng alisin ang award na NATIONAL ARTIST kay Caparas, puwede kasing kasohan ni Caparas ang gobyerno. Babayaran na si Caparas bilang NATIONAL ARTIST at babayaran pa ito ng gabundok na kuwarta sa damages sa kanya, lumalabas tuloy na parang hinampas ng maso ng dalawang beses ang gobyerno ng Pilipinas.

Ngayon ay nagprotesta na naman kayo ng ILLEGAL para bitayin si Caparas, ang RESULTA rin nito sa huli ay ILLEGAL rin. Kailan ba kayo matututo, pagputi ng uwak?

Tatakbo kamo si Caparas bilang senador? Malamang LEGAL na manalo ito. At malamang magprotesta na naman kayo ng ILLEGAL para matanggal itong si Caparas bilang senador, hhhhhhh. Ngayon nga ay hindi pa tumatakbo na senador itong si Caparas ay nagrereklamo na kayo.
Gerry Alanguilan on September 1st, 2009 1:51 pm

Muli, uulitin ko para kay Ser Flor. WALANG ILLEGAL SA PAGPROTESTA. WALANG ILLEGAL SA FREEDOM OF SPEECH. Yun lang po ang ginagawa namin. We are practicing our freedom of speech to air our grievances. It is part of our civil liberties and one of our basic human rights. Isn’t this the same right to freedom of speech that YOU are using right now to complain about us? Is what you are doing illegal? Of course not.

Hindi po illegal ang gawain na ito. Ito ay mga karapatan na protektado ng Constitution ng Pilipinas. Pati po ba konstitusyon babanggain ninyo?

Sa totoo lang po nagpapatuloy lang akong sumagot sa inyo kasi nirerespeto ko kayo bilang beterano sa komiks, at sa inyong mga accomplishments sa industriya na ito at sa pelikula. Kung ibang tao kayo matagal ko na kayong pinabayaan.

Pero minsan po, lalo na ngayon, parang wala na sa huwisyo ang mga sinasabi ninyo. Out of respect na lang po sa inyo ay hahayaan ko na lang kayo.
mico suayan on September 1st, 2009 2:04 pm

Naku si Estrada?! Dont get me started on that one. Saan ka ba naman nakakita ng isang CONVICTED CRIMINAL na tatakbo uli for president? Nasaan and delikadesa ng taong un? Disgusting if you ask me…
mico suayan on September 1st, 2009 2:19 pm

Kay Sir Kapre, Hindi naman po kami nagsasalita ng ganito para sirain pagkatao ni CJC. Umaalma lang po kami dahil sa pangingialam ng Malacanang sa pagpili ng National Artist and of course ung pagiging deserving niya bilang isang National Artist. Hindi naman po ako makakapayag na mapabilang si CJC sa likes ni Lino Brocka which we all know na napakalayo sa quality ng ginagawa ni CJC. Konting common sense lang po sa nagtatanggol kay CJC.
Jose Mari Lee on September 1st, 2009 2:56 pm

“Naku si Estrada?! Dont get me started on that one. Saan ka ba naman nakakita ng isang CONVICTED CRIMINAL na tatakbo uli for president? Nasaan and delikadesa ng taong un? Disgusting if you ask me…”

Mico, unfortunately, the Philippines had been transformed into a BANANA REPUBLIC after all the EDSA PREQUEL, SEQUEL, and FUTURE episodes. As we can all see, what’s happening in RP right now is just like any other Central American countries. Anything goes. Labu-labo.

Cory Aquino aplologized to Erap just before she passed away, and it was a beautiful thing to do. Kahi’t na hindi siya naging isang magaling na presidente, at least, nagpakita siya ng maraming mga magagandang halimbawa sa mga Filipinos. The yanking of Estrada from his post was a terrible mistake. He was duly elected by the Filipino people and the best thing to do was to use the proper route, the proper solution, not “BANANA REPUBLIC” kicking of butt. The unfortunate thing is: ESTRADA’s appeal to the masses is still very strong, and for me, it is disheartening. Now he is being blamed for the killing of Bobby Dacer. Meanwhile, if we look at it deeper, what motive was there for Estrada to execute Bobby? If there’s one person who’s more likely to do it is Ping Lacson. Why is it being blamed on Estrada now? This administration is just muddling up the cards. Just because the masses is showing a huge support for Estrada, the guy is now the suspect.

These Moro-moro and Zarzuela make my head spin, to tell you the truth. The soonest Arroyo leaves the Palace, the better for the country. Mr. Arroyo was a frequent visitor here in Richmond, BC, the same city where MR. DEWEY DEE (rmemeber the guy) has been residing for at least 20 years now. I heard he bought some luxurious real estate here so rest assured that the best getaway for them would be north America. Dewey Dee was not deported by Canada because he made the government believe that if he went back to RP, he’ll be murdered. And Canada, a country that is so easy to be hoodwinked when civil rights are involved, gave refuge to a man who robbed the Philippines of more than $85 million during Marcos’ time. I am not wishing to see here later on Mr. Arroyo mawing his lawn like what Dewey’s Moro-moro is being presented. I’ve seen him and his wife mawing their lawn, pretending to be simple folks. Simple my ass! Ano kaya ang itsura nina Gloria at Mike kung minsang mag-drive by ako ay makita kong nagmo-maw rin sila ng lawn? Har-har-har.

Come to think of it, after the election, the scenario is actually SCARY. Nariyan si Erap, si VILLAR (nakupo!) Si Roxas (padjak ka nang pajak), si Escudero (puro salita) Noly de Castro (hay, PAG-IBIG funds), at kung sinu-sino pang mga walang K na gustong magpresidente lahat para makapanimula na namang magnakaw sa bayan.

Pero pakiusap ko lang sa inyo, na kung kahi’t sino man ang maging Presidente, ay HUWAG NA HUWAG ninyong papayagang mabigyan na naman ng portfolio sa gobiyerno iyang MANOLING MORATO na iyan. Puro lang panggugulo ang lintik na iyan, tapos ang mga pinagsasabi ay puro GUESS WORK at katawa-tawa ang hinayupak na MANUELAng iyan!

Mabuti pa’y mag-export na rin lang ng saging ang RP nang malubos-lubos na ang pagiging Banana Republic nito. Sumosobra na talaga ang mga politiko diyan. Puro yata IPA ang laman ng mga utak ng mga nagkakandarapang pumasok sa politka diyan. Ngayon naman, may dating taga komiks daw na gustong mag-senador. BAHAKA KA NA NGA LANG!

Por Dios. Nakakapanuyo na ng dugo ito, oo.
Kapre on September 1st, 2009 3:12 pm

Ang protesta ay LEGAL kung ang tema nito ay TAMAIN ang isang bagay na ILLEGAL o walang LEGAL na batayan. Halimbawa, ang protesta laban kay Marcos ay LEGAL dahil si Marcos ay ILLEGAL na presidente dahil sa pagbaluktot niya sa mga batas at pandaraya sa eleksiyon.

Sa isang parte, ang protesta ay ILLEGAL kung ang tema nito ay gawin ILLEGAL ang isang bagay na may LEGAL na batayan. Halimbawa, ILLEGAL ang protesta sa kalsada laban sa LEGAL na presidente na si Estrada para ILLEGAL na alisin siya. Isa pang ehemplo, ILLEGAL ang protesta laban kay Caparas dahil LEGAL na pinili ito ayon sa patakaran ng NATIONAL ARTIST AWARD, IRRELEVANT kung nararapat man siya o hindi.

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Pero binanggit ni Fermin na itong NATIONAL ARTIST AWARD ay pinasimulan ng ILLEGAL na presidente na si Marcos nuong panahon ng kanyang MARTIAL LAW, kung gayon ang NATIONAL ARTIST AWARD ay ILLEGAL RIN. Bakit? Dahil ang anumang bagay na kagagawan ng sinuman na WALANG LEGAL NA BATAYAN sa kanyang puwesto ay WALANG AUTHORIDAD na gawin niya ito, lahat ng mga gawa niya ay puro ILLEGAL.

Batay sa KAWALAN NG LEGALITY NG NATIONAL ARTIST AWARD sa simula pa ay lumalabas na si Caparas at ang LAHAT na mga nakaraan at mapipili pang mga NATIONAL ARTISTS sa darating na panahon ay puro mga ILLEGAL. Ang sinumang sumusuporta sa sinumang national artist ay lumalabas na ang sinusuportahan niya ay ILLEGAL na national artist, at ang sinuman na magprotesta laban sa sinumang ILLEGAL na national artist ay KABUANGAN rin lang ang protesta niya dahil alam niya na illegal ito. PAANO PALA NILA GAGAWIN LEGAL ANG ISANG ILLEGAL?

Nakita na ninyo, dahil kay Fermin ay nahalukay tuloy na ILLEGAL ang simula ng NATIONAL ARTIST AWARD na kagagawan ng ILLEGAL na presidente na si Marcos na ipinagpatuloy ng ILLEGAL na presidente na si Arroyo. Puro ILLEGAL ang SIMULA at DULO ng NATIONAL ARTIST AWARD, ILLEGAL RIN NA BINAGO NGAYON ANG PATAKARAN NITO, KAHIT NA BALI-BALIKTARIN AT TINGNAN ITO SA IBAT-IBANG ANGULO AY ILLEGAL ANG AWARD NA ITO, AT ANG LAHAT NA MGA NATIONAL ARTISTS AY MGA ILLEGAL RIN.

Nakakaawa na nakakatawa tuloy dahil lumalabas na itong NATIONAL ARTISTS at ang NATIONAL ARTIST AWARD ay puro pala mga ILLEGAL na mga KABUANGAN lang!
Gerry Alanguilan on September 1st, 2009 3:22 pm

JM, when I participated in contributing artwork to the Ninoy Book by Jiggy Cruz, I was invited, along with the other artists, to attend a dinner in Forbes to meet Cory. This was around August or so last year. A lot of really big people were there and the more me and Ilyn saw, the more we started asking ourselves what the heck we were doing there.

Anyway, ERAP was there and I was wondering what the crap was he doing there? Wasn’t Cory instrumental in deposing him years ago? Me and Ilyn were extremely lucky to have spoken with Cory in the most informal way when most of the people had already left. We talked about comics (she called them “graphic novels”), her paintings…. and ERAP. She talked about teaching him how to use the cellphone for texting. As early as then we could sense there was something going on there that wasn’t written about in the papers. It seems they were getting along on friendly terms. Which was a big surprise to us, but at the same time, made us respect her a lot more.

When it came out that Cory had forgiven Erap, it was something that wasn’t unexpected for us. In fact, we understood it. And in Cory’s funeral, it came out that Erap, inspite of Cory’s role in his removal, had great respect for her as a leader and as a person. Although hell would freeze over before I vote for him for president in case he runs again, my impression of him has hardened less because of Cory.
Gerry Alanguilan on September 1st, 2009 3:32 pm

Anyway, ang nakakapagtaka e, bakit tayo napunta sa kaso ni ERAP e si Carlo Caparas ang pinaguusapan natin. Magkamukha ba? Bigote lang naman e!
Jose Mari Lee on September 1st, 2009 4:03 pm

Aha-ha-ha. Bigote, pero walang sunglasses at basebal cap.

Kay Supremong Kapre:

Dahil illegal pala si Marcos noon, ILLEGAL pala ang position ko sa PR office ni Imelda. HHHHHHHHHHHH!

Paano iyan, di Illegal din ang CIVIL SERVICE dahil bago tanggapin ni Imelda, kailangan may Civil Service Exam ka. Tatlo ang civil service ko: Illustrator • Writer • Media Specialist.

So lahat pala na pumasa noon sa Civil Service exams ay ILLEGAL rin lahat. HHHHHHHHHHH!

Pero, Supremo: hindi bale nang ILLEGAL NA NATIONAL ARTIST SI NICK JOAQUIN. Para sa akin, isa siya sa mga pinakamagaling na Filipino writers. Kaya nga nanghingilabot ako sa tuwing babasahin ko uli ang PANDAY, PIETA, GAGAMBINO… Tapos, babasahin ko ang GUARDIA DE HONOR, MAYDAY EVE, PORTRAIT OF AN ARTIST AS FILIPINO…

Napakalayo ng agwat. Ni sa dulo ng hintuturo ay walang-wala talaga sina Panday, Pieta at Gagambino.

Kaya nga, kahi’t ILLEGAL si Nick Joaquin, National Artist pa rin siya sa aking pananaw, kasi, through his work, he took me to terra incognita, protect me from an ignis fatuus, and woke me up having a higher consciousness within me.

Whereas with PANDAY, PIETA & Gagambino, they all took me to…PSSSST… NGORK… ZZZZZZZZZZ.

…and I woke up with a terrible MIGRAINE.

Ay, badaw manoy, dai nanggad ki kamutangan an mga pigsusurat kaining saro katawo. HHHHHHHHHHHHH!
lala on September 1st, 2009 4:34 pm

The hell? This is blowing my mind. Akala ba nila walang makakahalata? Are they for real????
Ed on September 1st, 2009 7:52 pm

Anong kaguluhan ‘to? :P

Importante dito ay di matuloy na NA si CJC. Nakakahiya nga na pag-usapan na naman tayo sa ibang bansa na ang National Artist natin sa Visual Arts ay di sumikat dahil sa mga ginagawa nya like films and writings.

CJC as a Senator? Kelan ba sya huling nagpa checkup sa doktor?
Pinoy Comics USA on September 1st, 2009 9:48 pm

JM,
Mar Roxas announced his wish to have Noynoy
Aquino run for president.
mico suayan on September 1st, 2009 10:11 pm

Naisip ko lang…pano magiging attire ni CJC kapag senador na siya? Barong tapos baseball cap and shades?
Jun Pamintuan on September 1st, 2009 11:59 pm

Wala na talaga tong Pilipinas. Kung ganyan rin lang mga nakapwesto at kung ganyan rin lang ang mga tutang papalit at papalit at papalit sa kanila. Wala na talaga. Sobrang laking kahihiyan na sa buong mundo mga nangyayari sa bansa natin. Harap harapang pang-bababoy na lang ang ginagawa para lang magawa nila trip nila. Ang lakas ng trip dito sa Pilipinas, parang laging mga naka-droga mga tao sa pwesto. Harap harapang babuyan? Ano yun? Akala nila walang makakapansin sa mga pinaggagagawa nila eh ang init init na nga ng issue?

Palagi ko pa namang ipinagmamalaki sa mga tao na maraming artist dito ang mahuhusay at kilala internationally dahil sa mga works nila sa comics. Tapos ganyan lang nangyayari satin ngayon? Nakakahiya talaga yan.
Carlo P on September 2nd, 2009 12:12 am

Maraming artista sa senado… magkaka director pa
Rolly on September 2nd, 2009 1:45 am

I hate to throw in a conspiracy theory, but I have a feeling that this CJC issue is an elaborate (or not so elaborate ^-^;) plot to earn Mr. Caparas cheap publicity.

Publicity they needed for May 2010. Using the National Artist award may be only a sub-plot needed to weave their thread.

I believe that is their ultimate goal. In the next few moths, the GMA administration need to come up with 12 persons that they can sell to the public as “senatoriable”.

Those 12 persons should at lease be one of the following:

1. Incumbent or a congressman,
2. Competent and qualified, and last but perhaps most important
3. Popular

By popular I don’t mean he enjoyed the public’s love and affection, he just needs to have a “name” the voters are familiar with.

Guess where Mr. Caparas fell in those category?

And think about it right now, can you name 12 people, who the administration can bet their behinds, that will ring a bell in the voters mind to be at least consider voting as a senator? I can’t even name 6.

And with all the scandals the Arroyo government had, I don’t think there will be 12 people willing to join the administration’s party.

Filipinos were divided in this issue. And by divided I don’t mean in half. That division can be cut by “Elitists vs Masa” knife they’re using. Hey, Erap did it and it got him to Malacanang.

Generally speaking, Filipinos are humble and wants to underrate itself so what percentage of Filipinos of legal age would happily consider themselves “Masa”? I bet more than 50%.

If Mr. Caparas’ camp is successful in driving that side of the story, the majority of the “Masa” will sympathize with him. Perhaps, even vote for him should he decide to run.

And we all know how Filipinos love an underdog. They feel Mr. Caparas “pain” and wants to end the “oppressive” nature of the “Elitists” by siding with Mr. Caparas.

It’s getting obvious that this issue has the fingerprint of a political mind behind it because they failed to consider the artistic side of the equation as evidenced by their failures to follow the NCCA guidelines.

All they saw was a political opportunity and they crossed the bridge before even getting there.

Bottom line, it’s a win-win situation for Mr. Caparas:

If he get his NA award, he can claim that he is indeed more qualified enough to be a senator. If he don’t get his NA award, he can at least cause a stir in the media and blame the same irrelevant issues (as far being NA-qualified is concern) for screwing a “poor man” out of a prestigious award.

It’s just one man’s opinion and observation. I hope Adrian Veidt’s not responsible for the precise nature of this conspiracy… Hehehe! :D
Jose Mari Lee on September 2nd, 2009 2:57 am

“Naisip ko lang…pano magiging attire ni CJC kapag senador na siya? Barong tapos baseball cap and shades?”

Hindi lang iyan. Ano ang SASABIHIN niya? Ano’ng mga batas ang isusulong niya? Dadgdag na naman sa listahan ng mga inutil na senador ito. Magiging LITO LAPID part II lamang siya.

But definitely, that DIRTY LOOK (parang hindi naligo ng sampung taon, kadiri!) ay dapat nang itapon iyan sa basurahan. Kapag nangampanya kang naka dark sunglasses at baseball cap, walang maniniwala sa iyong sincerity. Para ka kasing nakatago sa dilim.

Ay, parang title ng obra niya ito.

NAKATAGO SA DILIM
God Make Me See The Light!
Carlo P on September 2nd, 2009 4:54 am

Malamang maging palusot dito:

“Those changes have been in paper long ago, the website however, was just updated recently”

Hay Failippine government
Dexter Entera on September 2nd, 2009 8:21 am

Hehehe…grabe balitaktakan…nakakahilo…ano nga ulit punto? “Butch Dalisay uncovers tampering of NCCA Guidelines” Siguro, with all the comments na naka post dito…ang nakikita kong “gist” eh “Kung may mali, dapat ba palampasin? Are we condemned to repeat history because we can’t remember the past or it’s flawed? Pareho lang? lost cause maybe?

Para sa akin “The only way for evil to triumph is when good men do NOTHING!”

I think majority ng mga pinoy just really don’t care or don’t know (CJC Agenda)…pero to those who are “privileged” na makakita, lies the burden of voicing out (lalo na sa industriyang ito na sobrang undermined)…no matter how faint the sound maybe.

Speaking of sound…it only gets louder as long as more people in unison makes it. Unfortunately, that never has been one of our good qualities…in unison. At least sana we could start here…just my two cents.
Pinoy Comics USA on September 2nd, 2009 12:21 pm

Just sharing some news.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqo_9VgASxY

MANILA – A Filipino-Canadian film critic and his Slovenian live-in partner were shot dead inside their home in Quezon City, Tuesday night.

The victims were identified as Filipino-Canadian Alexis Tioseco, film critic and contributor to several publications, and Slovenian Nika Bohinc, a freelance film journalist.

Tioseco is in the YouTube video with Caparas and Butch Dalisay, the link is above.
Grabe.
Jose Mari Lee on September 2nd, 2009 2:32 pm

Rod:

It is horrible. The Tiosecos here in Vancouver are all in shocked.

The problem of people growing up in Canada is that they become too cocooned, too trusting, because they don’t develope within them the so-called subconcious fear. Canada is such a peaceful, beautiful, and inspiring place. It will make you believe that nothing terrible can happen to you. For the unsuspecting, the Philippines might look innocent enough: smiling people, friendly people. Yet it has its dark side, a scary side, lurking, and can attack you anytime.

I wonder if Alexis’ friends and relatives have warned him enough.

It is such a shame.
Pinoy Comics USA on September 2nd, 2009 9:47 pm

JM,
Really such a shame, the guy was so young, with so many years ahead of him. But why even kill him and his girlfriend, just get the valuables for God’s sake. Apparently QC is not as safe as it used to be, maybe no place is safe anymore, but really we have no idea as we both live in North America.
Rod
mico suayan on September 2nd, 2009 10:09 pm

MY GOD!!! All I can say is they’re playing the “INTIMIDATION GAME” here! Huwag tayo pasisindak! This country is going to hell!!!
Jose Mari Lee on September 3rd, 2009 12:39 am

Rod & Mico:

I talked to some people I know running the Toronto filmfest and they too are all in shock.

Alexis was well-liked. He was someone who was genuinely keen on preserving and continuing the legacy of Filipino cinema. It also didn’t hurt that nearly everyone saw him as one of the nicest guys around.

I hope this has nothing to do with the recent NA issue. Alexis was rather vocal about it.

And if it’s not, it’s unbelieveable that something like this could happen in QC. Nag-deteriote na rin pala ang lugar na ito.
komiksman on September 3rd, 2009 1:57 am

Gerry, dapat siguro ay dagdagan mo na ang rules mo regarding the comments. pag lumayo na ng todo sa topic, tabla na! Yung mga papansin kasi pag napapansin, lalong umaayuda e. hehehe

Malupet talaga si Sir Dalisay. Na-meet ko siya sa Aklan last year, pati misis niya. Lovely couple. Ambait pareho.

Kita nyo naman yung na-interview siya sa ANC ni Che-che Lazaro kasama si CJC, di ba? Kung ako nandun, binigwasan ko na ang Caparas na yun. hahah
Pinoy Comics USA on September 3rd, 2009 4:54 am

JM,
Here’s a heart-rending article by Alexis Tioseco(in the form of a letter to Nika, his girlfriend who was also killed)in Rogue Magazine: http://rogue.ph/columns/entry/the_letter_i_would_love_to_read_to_you_in_person/P1/
Gerry Alanguilan on September 3rd, 2009 7:01 am

Jerald, pag nag off topic na hinahayaan ko na lang. Minsan ok din ang pinupuntahan. Minsan hinde. Itong nangyari kina Alexis at Nika, magandang mapagusapan din. Shocking para sa akin, even though kilala ko lang si Alexis through the Caparas thing. Heart breaking pa rin. Pero pag si Erap na ang pinagusapan, bahala na kayo sa buhay nyo. hehe.
Gerry Alanguilan on September 3rd, 2009 7:05 am

JM, may speculation na ang nangyari kay Alexis has something to do with his upcoming court appearance. I go to this site for news about this:
http://filipinowriter.multiply.com/notes/item/31
Gerry Alanguilan on September 3rd, 2009 8:26 am

Video of Murder Suspect/accomplice. Have you seen this woman?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QMIKjcvphE
Jose Mari Lee on September 3rd, 2009 10:14 am

“Kita nyo naman yung na-interview siya sa ANC ni Che-che Lazaro kasama si CJC, di ba? Kung ako nandun, binigwasan ko na ang Caparas na yun. hahah”

He-he. I hope hindi mo hahambalusin ng DOS POR DOS si CAPARAS.

Seriously, writers are generally calm people. Butch Dalisay, Pete Lacaba, Raquel Villavicencio, Ricky Lee, and other scriptwriters of 1970s are pretty good people. They were all my colleagues at the SGP (scriptwriters Guild of the Philippines), and it seems that it was only Caparas who never attended any of our monthly meetings. Carlo, when he wasn’t directing movies yet, was actually pretty laid back, especially during our times in Atlas Publishing. But recently, seeing his demeanor while doing his rounds proving to the world that he is a “visual artist” makes him look like a fool.

It’s HUBRIS that’s working here. He feels he’s on top of the world, invincible.

A demeanor of a typical Greek Tragedy character who wallows in hubris only to be pulled down into the gutter in the end. The things coming out now about him might be the start of his downfall.

The award bestowed upon him by Arroyo might still be given to him in the end, but no one amongst his colleagues would look up to him, anyway. I feel bad that many people dislike him (and his life wasn’t that rosy either in his childhood), but if we look deeper, we can really see that he is the one who brought this acrimonious quagmire he is presently in – to himself.
Gerry Alanguilan on September 3rd, 2009 10:32 am

JM… I suspect a film about the life of Carlo J. Caparas would be fascinating to watch, specially if it’s done by a sensitive and talented director. Would it be something like what Orson Welles did about the life of William Randolph Hearst and if so, what would be CJC’s “Rosebud”? Or would it be something like what Tim Burton did on the life of Ed Wood?
Robby Villabona on September 3rd, 2009 11:54 am

Rod, JM,

Murder rates in the USA are actually higher than in the Philippines (5.7 and 3.8 people per 100,000, respectively). Just to serve as comparison — , Russia 16, Thailand 7.9, China 2.3, Canada 1.8.

But then again, you have a far higher chance of dying from heart disease or a car accident than by murder.

I keep telling JM, you can’t tell what’s really going on here by reading headline news.

OTOH, it’s election time next year, so murder rates will go up.
Robby Villabona on September 3rd, 2009 12:09 pm

“Ang protesta ay LEGAL kung ang tema nito ay TAMAIN ang isang bagay na ILLEGAL o walang LEGAL na batayan.”

One of the silliest things I’ve heard on this board…

Si Kapre dapat ay gawing National Artist. Siya lang ang kilala kong kaya mag painting na walang brush. He usually paints himself into a corner when arguing with someone who dares to challenge his theories.
Pinoy Comics USA on September 3rd, 2009 1:05 pm

Robby,
Sana’y yang mga nangungngurakot na politicians ang siyang magpataas sa murder rate sa darating na eleksiyon. Actually this is true, politicians tend kill each other during election, get rid of the opposition, ika nga, it’s just that there’s darned so many of them, hindi maubos-ubos.
Jose Mari Lee on September 3rd, 2009 1:31 pm

Gerry:

In a way, it is somewhat similar to Citizen Cane, espacially his sincere desire to do good in the beginning. I’m pretty sure CJC was sincere in the beginning to do a noble purpose and self-sacrifice just to alleviate the situation of his family, relatives and friends. But in order to achieve this, he had to strive to improve his lot. Quite reminiscent indeed of CITIZEN CANE, especially the change in personality afterwards. :)

But success, sometimes, can destroy a person. Some people are overwhelmed by success. And the more they accumulate wealth and fame, the more they want for more; the more they seek for the highest pedestal. And obviously, CJC’s overt determination for wealth, fame and honor is quite apparent(“I am not old and I don’t intend to die soon, I deserve this award”).

Unfortunately, wealth, fame and success do not necessarily bring happiness to a person. We can all see this, we all witness the desperation, the need, the aching desire to get that honor called NA. Right now, he’s still quite HIGH from the effects of money, fame and success. He has forgotten, it seems, that after the “high” phase, comes the sobering reality when he falls into the depths of degradation – his inner erosion in his unquenchable thirst for honor.

His simple beginnings in Pasig, his childhood, his early manhood, are no doubt colorful. It will surely translate into an extremely touching film. Who knows? Maybe if he writes his own life and make a film of it, well, it might give him the opportunity to show his best work. Too bad Orson Welles is no longer around. He could have hang out with him on Sunset Blvd and ask for his advice. he-he. Let’s just keep our fingers crossed that this particular film does not end up like that Ed Wood masterpiece: “THE SUN WAS SETTING” (1951).

Though I remember KAHI’T AKO’Y LUPA as a semi-autobiographical komiks nobela published by Atlas in the 1970s, illustrated by NESTOR MALGAPO (an honest-to-goodness visual artist), it was a fictionalized story so we didn’t really get the whole shebang from it.

Trouble is: the ending might be a typical Caparas one: Receiving the award (as NA), delivering a maudlin speech, then raising the trophy overhead… and… FREEZE. Closing credits.
Jose Mari Lee on September 3rd, 2009 1:41 pm

Robby:

Yeah, you’re right. The US has more crimes because it is much bigger and has more population than RP. Though I have been reading more HOME INVASION in RP than in the US. This one is the most terrible. Can you imagine not being safe in the privacy of your own home? Naku, out of topic na namn tayo, baka magalit sa atin ang Komikero police, lagot tayo. He-he. Sorry for answering a non-related question. Mea culpa, mea culpa.
MzJosephine on September 3rd, 2009 2:39 pm

“Robby Villabona on September 3rd, 2009 12:09 pm”

My sentiment exactly :D Thank you for posting it.
mico suayan on September 3rd, 2009 5:36 pm

O-M-G! Ang basihan lang pala ni CJC sa pagiging National Artist ay sa laki ng kinikita ng kanyang mga pelikula…WOW!
Francis Lim on September 3rd, 2009 6:11 pm

Hello Gerry, early in the CJC-NA controversy, out of sheer frustration and rage, I posted a short comment on your site. It was a purely conjectural statement, something I didn’t think would happen anytime soon. To my pleasant surprise, I have actually seen CJC on national TV, desperately showing his “drawings” in a vain attempt to justify his NA. However, I also saw Alexis Tioseco, the very picture of serene calmness and sound reasoning. I applaud his spirit of nationalism and mourn his passing as a great loss for our country. Lastly, I see CJC, rarely is such sheer arrogance and hubris displayed on national TV. And when he harangues Alexis, I glimpse briefly the seething fury of CJC. And just for an instant, he is the Massacre King for real. Is this perhaps a case wherein life imitates art?
Gerry Alanguilan on September 3rd, 2009 6:50 pm

Francis, let me give you a quote from Caparas, as it comes from Lourd Ernest De Veyra’s article “Carlo J. All The Way” from spot.ph:
http://www.spot.ph/2009/08/01/carlo-j-all-the-way/

“…I asked him about his critics, those reviewers, columnists, and academics who all agree that his ouvre was responsible for the death of Philippine cinema. This, in a contrastingly nice and gentle tone, was his reply, “Eh di…. Suntukan na lang kami.””

I am certain that if cameras were not trained on him in that ANC interview, he would have said the same thing to Alexis.

In the same article, CJC also displays his intolerance and bigotry:

“One of his conditions for agreeing to license Panday to ABS-CBN: “Dapat hindi bakla ang mag-direct niyan!””

Words from a National Artist and aspiring Senator.
Ferres on September 3rd, 2009 9:40 pm

Off topic but…
“Murder rates in the USA are actually higher than in the Philippines (5.7 and 3.8 people per 100,000, respectively). Just to serve as comparison — , Russia 16, Thailand 7.9, China 2.3, Canada 1.8.”

Yes, but we’re like the fourth highest in Asia. And the other 2, Sri Lanka and Pakistan have actual wars. We’re not even a gun touting society. Indonesia which is geographically and culturally similar to us is 1.05.
Ferres on September 3rd, 2009 9:58 pm

On actual number of murders, we are number 8 in the world.
Robby Villabona on September 3rd, 2009 11:09 pm

JM, I was talking about per capita (per 100,000) people. So it’s not because US is bigger. I think it’s primarily because it’s easier to murder in the US (more guns). Number one is Honduras and that’s not a big country.

Ferres, is that absolute number? I think per capita statistics is a better indicator. And don’t forget, we also have an actual war (in Mindanao with the Muslim separatists and Abu Sayaf, and all-over the countryside with the NPA).
Bong Redila on September 4th, 2009 12:49 am

Sinabihan pa ni Caparas si Alexis na “BATA Ka PA!”
Kapre on September 4th, 2009 7:10 am

Ang napakalaking problema sa pilipino ay ang ugaling SUNOD-SUNORAN na lang, walang pagka-independente at wala rin mga sariling mga ideya. Pag meron isang popular na nagsabi ng ganito at ganuon ay isa-isang nagsusunod-sunoran na lang ang iba, TAKOT NA SUMALUNGAT SA KARAMIHAN.

Ehemplo na lang sa komiks ngayon ang mga pilipino artists ay tagasunod lang sa mga stelong hapon at amerikano, pati rin sa mga pelekula at literetura. Itong ugaling tagasunod lang ay nangyari rin nuong panahon ng matatandang artists sa komiks, ang mga batang artists ay tagasunod lang sa mga stelo ng mga matatandang artists na ito, TAKOT RIN NA SUMALUNGAT sila kaya ang labas tuloy ng mga stelo nuon ay puro stelo ni Redondo. At ngayon ay inulit na naman ang ugaling ito na tagasunod lang, halos lahat dito ay tagasunod lang ni Gerry para banatan si Caparas, TAKOT SILA NA SALUNGATIN SI GERRY.

RESULTA, ang umiikot na ideya dito ay isang ideya lang at isang direksiyon, ayaw sa makaibang ideya at direksiyon. Pag WALANG VARIATION at WALANG IBANG PANANAW ang resulta palagi ay sumusulong na PAATRAS. Ang anumang bagay sa mundo ay sumusulong lang na PAABANTI kung meron ibang ideya at pananaw.

Ito ang ibang pananaw sa KOMIKS na nakaligtaan ng mga TAGASUNOD lang dito. Ang mga KOMIKS ay VISUAL na ang mga storya nito ay dapat maintendihan na mga DRAWINGS lang ang tinitingnan at kung maari ay hindi na binabasa ang mga CAPTIONS at DIALOGUES. Tinalakay ko ito sa BLOG ko na kung saan ginagamitan ang VISUAL STORYTELLING sa KOMIKS ng SYMBOLIC LINES, PANELS, ANGLES, DIRECTION at CONTINUITY at iba pa. Ang mga ito ang pinaka-importanteng mga elemento sa komiks. Walang duda na si Caparas ay marunong mag-drawing ng LINES at PANELS, at kabisado rin niya siguro ang ANGLES. Hindi ko lang alam kung alam niya ang SYMBOLIC na paggamit nito at iyong tungkol sa VISUAL DIRECTION at CONTNUITY dahil halos karamihan sa KOMIKS ILLUSTRATORS at WRITERS ay TATANGA-TANGA dito.

Pero ang mga KOMIKS sa Pilipinas nuon ay TADTAD ng CAPTIONS at DIALOGUES na kung saan sinasabi dito ang ACTIONS at ACTING ng mga komiks characters, ang environment at kung ano ang atmosphere nito, REDUNDANT na tuloy ang labas dahil kung ano ang sinasabi sa CAPTIONS ay iyon din ang mga DRAWINGS. Ulitin, sa KOMIKS nuon kung ano ang sinasabi sa CAPTIONS ay iyon din ang mga DRAWINGS. Halimbawa, ang caption ay “lumipad si Darna …,” ang makikita sa DRAWING ay lumilipad si Darna. lumalabas na ang CAPTIONS ng mga KOMIKS nuon ay VISUAL DESCRIPTIONS ng VISUAL DRAWINGS.

Maiintendihan lang kadalasan ang mga storya ng KOMIKS nuon kung babasahin ang mga CAPTIONS at DIALOGUES nito. Kung mga DRAWINGS lang ang tingnan ay hindi maintendihan ang mga storya. Minsan tingnan at suriin ninyong mabuti ang mga komiks nuon na sinulat nina Ravelo, Coching, del Mundo, at iba pa, hindi ninyo maintendihan ang mga storya nila kung mga DRAWINGS lang ang titingnan ninyo, kailangan basahin ninyo ang mga CAPTIONS at DIALOGUES nila. Puwede rin ALISIN na ang mga DRAWINGS at basahin na lang ang mga CAPTIONS at DIALOGUES, tuloy parang ginawa ng mga WRITERS nuon, lalo na si Ravelo, na walang silbi ang mga ARTISTS.

Isa pa pala, ang SCRIPT sa KOMIKS ng VISUAL WRITER ay VISUAL PLAN na SINUSUNOD lang ng VISUAL ARTIST nuon. TUTA na TAGASUNOD lang ang VISUAL ARTIST nuon ng VISUAL WRITER.

Samakatuwid, pangkalahatan, ang mga KOMIKS nuon sa Pilipinas ay primarily VISUAL WRITER’S KOMIKS at secondary lang na sabihin na VISUAL ARTIST’S KOMIKS ang mga ito. Maliwanag na lumalabas na ang VISUAL WRITER sa KOMIKS nuon ay MALAWAKAN SINASAKOP ang STORY at ART dahil PRIMARY ang papel nito, samantala ang VISUAL ARTIST sa KOMIKS ay sinasakop lang niya ang ART dahil SECONDARY lang ang papel niya.

Ipinaliwanag ko na na ILLEGAL ang mga NATIONAL ARTISTS at NATIONAL ARTIST AWARD dahil ang promotor nito ay ang ILLEGAL na presidente na si Marcos at ipinagpatuloy ito ng ILLEGAL na presidente na si Arroyo, pero ipalagay na natin na LEGAL ang mga ito. Sa technical na usapan, ang sinuman na VISUAL WRITER sa KOMIKS na kagaya ni Caparas ay NARARAPAT rin na maging NATIONAL ARTIST sa VISUAL dahil PRIMARY at MALAWAKAN SINASAKOP niya ang STORY at ART sa KOMIKS.

Ayan, ibang ideya ang ipinahayag ko. Ipakita rin ninyo na meron ang iba sa inyo na INDEPENDENTENG PAG-IISIP na meron MAKA-IBANG IDEYA rin. Huwag kayong SUNOD-SUNORAN LANG na parang mga TUTA. Tandaan ninyo na iyong mga sunod-sunoran sa stelo ng drawing ni Redondo ay mga CLONES ni Redondo. Kaya TUTA na, mga CLONES pa ang labas rin ninyo, HHHHHHH …….
Fermin Salvador on September 4th, 2009 7:58 am

“…demeanor of a typical Greek Tragedy character who wallows in hubris only to be pulled down into the gutter in the end.”

JM, going down the gutter does not necessarily mean losing your wealth and fame (or infamy). One can be in a gutter even if he lives in a mansion in Alabang and seen in tv/print every hour if one lacks basic moral traits that make even a plain laborer who lives in a slum a human being with dignity.
Whilce Portacio on September 4th, 2009 12:47 pm

Hello Kapre…or whoever you really are…I already lost respect for you for “hiding” behind a false name…

Now, if you are who Ger says you are then you and I being some of the older ones on this blog I think you should hold yourself with a little more respect, and give a little more respect…in other words “act like an adult”…and more specifically “…not like the brat.”

Everyone has their own ideas, and their right to them. It is the “small minded” that believes their point of view is the only point of view. It is the “smaller mind” that accuses others of repeating ideas while repeating the same idea himself over and over again. Especially when that “idea” has no real bearing on the topic at hand.

So, let’s show the “kids” here how real men behave. If not then please fade away into the night…Gerry and alot of the others on this blog are my friends, you disrespect them, you disrespect me…

You have a long and distinguished record of achievements, I hold myself as one who admires greatly your art, don’t deface yourself anymore with your childish rantings…

Sorry Ger…I just couldn’t hold back any longer…will now retreat back into the depths of the internet…Whilce Portacio…
Jose Mari Lee on September 4th, 2009 12:50 pm

Fermin:

That’s why I said: Greek tragedy.

Oedipus, the son of Queen Jocasta, remained a KING despite the debasement of his character. After gaouging his own eyes and becoming an exile on an island, he was still King. He never became a pauper.

This is what I was refering to. Caparas may be dragged down into the gutter, but if he knows how to manage his money, he won’t end up in the Squatter’s area.

HHHHHHHHHH.

Supremong Kapre:

Tama iyan, na dapat magkaroon ng sariling opinion ang isang tao. After all, like what What William Ernest Henley told us:

“I am the master of my fate;
I am the captain of my soul.”

I think it would be sweeping that just because we happened to agree with Gerry’s opinion, we are already mindless goofs. HHHHHHHH.

It’s just the reality of life. People’s opinions are not necessarily in unison all the time. In fact, even if we traced in the old testament, there’s always CONFLICT because people’s opinions differ.

What we can do really, is: Whatever opinion we have, we must show it to the others why we chose the other side. This is the healthiest way of carrying a debate. Point A must show why point B is not a good alternative. I think it is as simple as that. Not because we happened to agree with Alanguilan, it means that we’re all mindless fools. We’re not. We’re just expressing our own opinion, just like the other side who’s trying to expound on their chosen side. We’re just discussing, it’s good to vent out our frustrations from this DAGDAG-BAWAS way of life that is becoming so popular in the government of the Philippines. If we can improve things through discussions and protests, why not?
mz.josephine on September 4th, 2009 1:14 pm

“At ngayon ay inulit na naman ang ugaling ito na tagasunod lang, halos lahat dito ay tagasunod lang ni Gerry para banatan si Caparas, TAKOT SILA NA SALUNGATIN SI GERRY.”

Mamang Kapre,

I take exceptional offence in your statement above, and I’m sure all of us visitors in Gerry’s blog are more than miffed with your disgraceful characterization.

Takot kay Gerry? EXCUSE ME!

Gerry has been more than gracious in allowing your opinions, no matter how off-the-wall some of those are, in his blog. I commend him for that.

At pasensiya na kayo, Mamang Kapre, if I spoke my mind. Alam kong kayo ang ‘hambalos ng dos-por-dos’ king pero hindi ako takot sa inyo kung paano di rin ako takot kay Gerry. :D

As well, I disagree with your claim that:

“…ang mga KOMIKS nuon sa Pilipinas ay primarily VISUAL WRITER’S KOMIKS at secondary lang na sabihin na VISUAL ARTIST’S KOMIKS ang mga ito…”

In my humble opinion, hindi secondary lang ang papel ng mga artists/illustrators. Kahit gaano pa kadetalyado ang guide ng komiks writer, it is still the artist’s visual rendition, in the end, that breathes life into the story through images.

Ergo, CJC is not qualified to the NA title for visual arts — even if he knows how to do stick drawings.
Bong Redila on September 4th, 2009 2:37 pm

Hindi naman siguro inutil ang mga tao dito para sumangayon sa isang bagay na tama.

Ang alam kung nakakahiya ay yung mga taong sumasalungat sa bagay bagay, tama man o mali, para lang maturing silang makaiba.

Naks! Ang daming takot sumalungat sayo, Ger. Takbo ka kaya ng Barangay Chairman? Nakuw! dadaming tuta mo nyan. IIIIIII….
jim on September 4th, 2009 3:04 pm

ginoong kapre, mawalang galang na po, ako po ay sumasang ayon sa inyo sa pagsasabi nyo na marami sa aming mga pilipino ngayun ay nababalutan ng TAKOT. tutoo po yan ginoong kapre. kami po ay takot na takot. sadyang maraming kinatatakutan ang mga pilipino ngayun. Takot po kaming maisahan. Takot po kami na magmukhang tanga at katawa tawa sa paningin ng ibang lahi. Takot po kami na hayaan na lang na abusuhin ang pagtitiwalang ipinagkaloob namin sa mga nahalal na tagapamuno sa amin. Takot kami na mauwi sa wala ang mga naitatag na mga parangal para sa itinakda ng nakararaming nasa karapatan na talagang napakamahusay, at sa pamamagitan ng aming ibinabayad na buwis ay bigyan ng kaunting pabuya. marami pa kaming kinatatakutan, subalit hindi ito nangangahulugan na kami ay papayag na habambuhay na tagasunod lamang. kung gayun ay mananahimik na lang kami. mas matatakot kaming sumang ayon sa isang ideyang alam namin na sa simula pa lang ay sadyang MALI.

subalit, HINDI KAMI TAKOT SALUNGATIN ANG MGA IDEYA NI KA GERRY. ito’y bukal sa loob naming sinasang ayunan ng walang kina kailangang pagpipilt, sapagkat ito rin ang nasa aming saluobin. sa mata man ng iilan ito ay mali, ito ang siyang pinaniniwalaan ng nakararami, kung baga sa ingles ay COMMON SENSE.

ang masasabi ko lang po sa ikalawang talata niyo ay: ALEX NINO

takot po akong sumang ayun sa inyong paniniwala na si caparas ay marunong o nakakainitindi ng VISUAL STORYTELLING. kung tutoo po ito ay bakit hindi niya mai-translate ang kaalamang ito sa kanyang mga pelikula?may kaiga igaya bang mga anggulo sa kanyang mga pelikula? mga nakaka-antig na pagsasalarawan na pipigilan ang mga manunuod na tumayo at lumabas sa mga sinehan? kung idadahilan ninyo ang katwirang mga BOBO at TANGA ang mga taong kanyang pinangungunahan, tulad ng katwiran ninyo na mga BOBO at TANGA ang kanyang naging mga dibuhista sa komiks, nangangahulugan po na hindi po siya marunong magdirect visually, di po ba? isang ehemplo ng isang komikero na mahusay makapag translate ng kanyang mga ideya mula sa pagdibuho hanggang sa pelikula ay si frank miller. kung paano niyo nakikita ang kanyang mga komiks ay ganun din ang pagsasalarawan sa kanyang mga pelikula. ganun din si dave mckean. hindi na po mahalaga kung sila ay mga banyaga.

natutuwa ako at walang takot na sasabihing kahanga hanga na kayo’y nakapag papahayag ng kakaibang ideya, nakakapag bigay ng iba’t-ibang kuro-kuro, subalit ang iba sa mga ideyang ito’y sadyang hindi namin masasang-ayunan.
Ferres on September 4th, 2009 10:37 pm

“Ferres, is that absolute number? I think per capita statistics is a better indicator. And don’t forget, we also have an actual war (in Mindanao with the Muslim separatists and Abu Sayaf, and all-over the countryside with the NPA).”

On actual number of people killed, we are number 8, India is number one. You can’t really compare our insurgency problems with the wars in Pakistan and Sri-lanka. we never had sustained daily attacks/suicide bombings in Manila with hundreds dead every day. While Thailand has an active insurgency but also large scale drug smuggling and spill-over from Myanmar.

The per capita statistics are skewed by our large area population and does not consider geography, access to weapons and comparisons with neighboring countries.

Region wise, we have a comparably higher murder rate.
Ferres on September 4th, 2009 11:11 pm

Surprisingly, Rape in the Philippines hardly registered, of course it maybe due to some under reporting but still…

What shocked me is the fire arms related murders. we are ranked 5th just below the US. :(

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur-crime-murders
Kapre on September 5th, 2009 9:41 am

Sa totoo ay IISA lang ang tema at direksiyon ng MGA IDEYA ninyo na “SI CAPARAS AY HINDI KARAPAT-DAPAT NA NATIONAL ARTIST.”

Wala ni isa man sa inyo na nagpahayag ng MAKAIBANG PANANAW na SALUNGAT sa IISANG TEMA ninyong ito, ito ang ibig kung sabihin na mga TAKOT KAYO. TAKOT KAYONG SUMALUNGAT SA TEMA NINYONG ITO. Si Gerry ba ang nagpasimula nito?

Pero tama ba kayo at mali ako? Tandaan ninyo na kung ano ang TAMA ngayon, bukas-makalawa ay MALI ito; sa isang parte, ang MALI ngayon ay bukas-makalawa ay TAMA ito. Nakalimutan na ba ninyo na akala ni Cory nuon ay TAMA ang protesta niya laban kay Estrada, sa huli ay humingi siya ng paumanhin dito dahil nalaman niya na MALI pala ang protesta niya nuon.

Ang iba sa inyo ay may ugaling pagka-DIKTADOR pa, pag meron isang salungat ang ideya sa kanila ay PALAYASIN o PATAHIMIKIN ito. Sa pagkakataon ito ay ipinakita ng may mga ugaling pagka-DIKTADOR na INUNAHAN at SINALUNGAT pa nila si Gerry na siyang may-ari ng blog na ito. Sabagay, kahit papaano ay nagkaruon ng IBANG direksiyon, iyon lang, direksiyon DIKTADOR.

Lahat kayo ay hindi nakaintendi kung ano ang TEMA o PANANAW ko na iba sa inyo. Maliban sa ibang posts ko tungkol sa VISUAL, ang pangkalahatan TEMA o MAKAIBANG PANANAW ko ay tungkol sa ILLEGALITY o LEGALITY, at HINDI ITO tungkol sa kung karapat-dapat man o hindi si Caparas na national artist. Ayan, siguro maliwanag na ito sa inyo.

Para lalong maintendihan ninyo ang PANANAW KO ay ipaliwanag ko uli ito ng maiksi. Nabanggit ko na sa ibang post ko na ang NATIONAL ARTIST AWARD at lahat na mga NATIONAL ARTISTS ay mga ILLEGAL. Bakit? Dahil ang nagpasimula nito ay ang ILLEGAL na presidente na si Marcos na ipinagpatuloy ng ILLEGAL na presidente na si Arroyo. Dahil WALANG LEGALITY sila kaya ILLEGAL ang authoridad nila, lahat na mga gawa nila ay mga ILLEGAL. Lumalabas na ang gawang NATIONAL ARTIST AWARD ay ILLEGAL kaya ang mga NATIONAL ARTISTS ay mga ILLEGAL rin.

Batay sa paliwanag sa itaas, maliwanag na ANUMANG PROTESTA sa isang ILLEGAL na NATIONAL ARTIST na kagaya ni Caparas para palitan ito ng ibang ILLEGAL na NATIONAL ARTIST rin ay KABUANGAN NA PROTESTA. Ulitin, KABUANGAN dahil ang ILLEGAL ay papalitan ng ibang ILLEGAL.

Sa isang parte, ipalagay natin na LEGAL ang NATIONAL ARTIST AWARD at mga NATIONAL ARTISTS. Ang masamang implikasyon nito na pag LEGAL ang NATIONAL ARTIST AWARD ay LEGAL rin ang mga authoridad nina Marcos at Arroyo. Lumalabas rin na LEGAL na mga presidente sina Marcos at Arroyo, lalo na si Marcos. Di parang lumalabas na ILLEGAL na tinanggal si Marcos bilang presidente.

Ano naman ang implikasyon nito kay Caparas kung LEGAL ang NATIONAL ARTIST AWARD? Si caparas ay LEGAL na napili bilang NATIONAL ARTIST, irrelevant kung siya ay karapat-dapat man o hindi; ulitin, IRRELEVANT kung siya ay karapat-dapat o hindi. Lumalabas na ang PROTESTA laban kay Caparas para alisin ito ay ILLEGAL dahil LEGAL ang pagkapili sa kanya bilang NATIONAL ARTIST. Kagaya ito sa ILLEGAL na protesta para alisin ang LEGAL na presidente na si Estrada.

Naisip ba ng iba sa inyo ang tungkol dito sa LEGALITY o ILLEGALITY? Ito, isa pang pananaw. Alam kung mga relihiyosong katoliko ang marami sa inyo, alam ba ninyo na ang NATIONAL ARTIST AWARD ay kagaya sa ginamit na AWARD ng demonyong si Satanas kay Jesus? Sa halip na NATIONAL ARTIST AWARD ang ginamit ni Satanas para demonyohin si Jesus ay ibinibigay niya ang LAHAT NA KAHARIAN SA BUONG MUNDO AWARD kay Jesus. Sa kundisyon na lumuhod si Jesus sa harap ni Satanas. Kung tanggapin rin ni Jesus ang AWARD na ito ni Satanas, ang ILLEGAL na nagpapanggap na diyos-diyosan na si Satanas ay magiging LEGAL na diyos ni Jesus. Kapareho ito sa mga NATIONAL ARTISTS, pag tinanggap nila ang NATIONAL ARTIST AWARD na ito ay magiging LEGAL ang pagka-presidente ng ILLEGAL na mga presidente na sina Marcos at Arroyo.

Biro ito pero isa pang pananaw. Paano kung ang AWARD ay ibinibigay ni Satanas kay Caparas at tinanggap naman ito niya, at nag-protesta kayo laban kay Caparas? Malamang PAGSISIPAIN KAYO ni Satanas dahil ILLEGAL ang mga protesta ninyo ayon sa patakaran ni Satanas. Pero kung tungkol ito sa NATIONAL ARTIST AWARD ay hindi naman kayo sisipain ng gobyerno ng Pilipinas o ni Caparas sa protesta ninyo, sa halip ay puwede kasing ihabla o sipain ni Caparas ang gobyerno kung alisin sa kanya ang LEGAL na titulo na ibinigay sa kanya. Naintendihan na ba ninyo ang ibig sabihin ng tema kung LEGALITY o ILLEGALITY?

Pag-isipan muna ninyo ng malalim itong mga paliwanag ko bago kayo MAGTATARANG.
Pinoy Comics USA on September 5th, 2009 10:04 am

Ferres,
Alexis’ girlfriend Nika went from a country that’s number 73 (Slovenia) to a country that’s number 8 (the Philippines). Had she stayed in her country she might still be alive. The sad thing is she was scheduled to leave the next day for Slovenia.
Gerry Alanguilan on September 5th, 2009 10:47 am

Mang Flor, nangtanong po kayo.

“Pero tama ba kayo at mali ako?”

Mali po kayo. At ipapaliwanag ko.

Unang una, kung talagang pinapalayas ko dito ang mga salungant sa akin, bakit nandito pa kayo? The mere fact na nandito pa rin kayo ay patunay na MALI KAYO.

Pangalawa. Walang sumasalungat sa pananaw na si Carlo J. Caparas ay hindi karapat dapat maging National Artist kasi HELLO? Talaga namang hindi karapat dapat na maging National artist si Carlo J. Caparas. May tama sa ulo, ignorante, o nabayaran lang ang maniniwalang karapat dapat sya.

Kaya lang walang sumasalungat sa akin ay TAKOT ang mga tao sa akin? Takot ba si Bencab sa akin? Takot ba si F. Sionil Jose? Takot ba si Butch Dalisay? Takot ba ang sumakabilang buhay na si Alexis Tioseco? Takot ba s Lourd De Veyra? NI HINDI NILA AKO KILALA. Mag ikot nga kayo online at tingnan nyo ang katakut takot na mga tao na hindi sang ayon na makakuha ng National Artist award si Caparas na walang kinalaman sa akin. Baka magulantang kayo. Samakatuwid, MALI KAYO.

KAYO po ang magisip ng malalim bago kayo magtatarang, kasi tulad ng sabi ko nung huli, wala na huwisyo ang mga sinasabi ninyo. Pagod na ako makipagtalo sa inyo kasi paikot ikot lang kayo, hindi nyo pinapasin ang mga matitinong sagot sa mga paratang ninyo, at kung saan saan nyo dinadala ang usapan (Satanas? Erap? Religion?) na nagpapagulo lang ng usapan.

Hindi ko alam kung wala na kayo sa huwisyo o nanghahamit lang kayo. May nagsabi sa akin na gumaganap lang kayong Devil’s Advocate, pero ewan ko. Parang hindi ako naniniwala.
Gerry Alanguilan on September 5th, 2009 11:31 am

But I have to come clean about one thing. There is no democracy in this blog. And yes, I’m the dictator of it. And don’t be shocked, it’s true.

This blog is an extension of my home. And as an extension of my home, you are all my guests, and here, you are open to have discussions on subjects I post about. And yes, contrary to what a few people believe, I welcome opposing views here. Those who believe there is none, they don’t really read this blog and the comments herein. However, I do have rules, as I do in my home.

For instance, you are not allowed to smoke in my home. If you wish to smoke, go outside. Here, people are not allowed to insult each other and the host. That’s only sensible isn’t it? You wouldn’t want your guests at your house to hurl insults at each other. That’s just ugly. So I don’t allow it here.

I also don’t allow guests to come here with bags over their heads, concealing their identity, carrying 2×2 sticks threatening to hit people on the head over it. The only thing that’s allowing me to tolerate your posts, Mr. Floro Dery is the fact that I know who you are. But every single time you post as “Kapre” or variations of the name, you offend me and insult me in my own home. You come here with a bag over your head, scolding everyone, carrying a 2×2 stick threatening to hit people over the head with it. I don’t like it. That is very rude, disrespectful, and unprofessional.

There is a reason I insist on people put down their real names. It’s about RESPECT. It’s about CULPABILITY. It’s about ACCOUNTABILITY. If you feel strongly about your views, you stand by it with your real name, and not hide behind a fake name. That’s just immature. And this goes to everyone else who attempts to post here with fake names. I encourage people to visit, but please take that bag off your head.

If you are not going to respect me in my own home, what reason have I to allow you to continue posting?

While blog is not a democratic place, the Internet is. You are free to express whatever opinion you may have about CJC, ME, and everyone else to your heart’s desire in your own spot on the Internet.
Robby Villabona on September 5th, 2009 11:57 am

Ferres, Rod,

My intention when I pointed out these statistics is to communicate that we shouldn’t let the news shape our impression of any place we’ve not been to (or not been to in a long time). We think some place is dangerous because someone famous got killed there. People tend to overestimate dangers because of the news. Just look at AH1N1… Yes, it spread fast, but is in no way as dangerous as other diseases we’ve had around everyday (TB, H-fever, etc., malaria) The fact is people are in more danger of dying by virtue of being too busy to cook and being surrounded by McDonald’s, Burger King, and Pizza Hut.

Just last month my neighbor died of a heart attack in his sleep. He probably was at most 40 years old. Buong pamilya overweight.

Ferres, I’m not sure about the stats you looked at, but those I looked at excludes deaths from war. But it is true we are among the highest in Asia.
Floro Dery on September 5th, 2009 3:02 pm

Gerry,

alam mo at ng mga posters dito kung sino ako kung KAPRE ang ginagamit ko. Ang tagal ko ng ginagamit nito sa message board mo. Huwag ka masyadong puntelyoso.

Pangalawa, hindi ako nagpaikot-ikot, IISA LANG ANG TEMA na ginagamit ko na tungkol ito sa LEGALITY at ILLEGALITY na hindi ninyo maintendihan, ikaw at ang mga posters dito ang nagpaikot-ikot.

Pangatlo, katuwaan lang na gamitin itong DOS-POR-DOS, kung seryosong gamitin ito na ihataw sa ulo ay PATAY ang tao. PIKON lang ang seryosohin ito, huwag kayong mga pikon.

Pang-apat, HINDI MO NAINTENDIHAN ang sinabi ko tungkol sa DIKTADOR, hindi ka ang DIKTADOR na tinutukoy ko. Dito ay MALI ka, basahin mo uli iyong sinabi ko sa nakaraan post ko. Si Whilce itong meron utak DIKTADOR at meron pang iba, itong dalawa ang gustong magpalayas at patahimikin ako. Minsan ayokong magbanggit ng pangalan.

Panglima, wala kamong sumasalungat? Ako sumasalungat pero dahil sa mga puntong LEGALITY at ILLEGALITY na hanggan ngayon ay hindi ninyo maintendihan. At dahil sa punto rin na puwedeng kontrahin ang mga IDEYA at GAWA ng sinuman pero HINDI TAMA na siraan ang kanyang pagkatao na kagaya ng ginagawa ninyo kay Caparas, CHARACTER ASSASSINATION ang ginagawa ninyo. Dito ay MALI KAYO. Hindi lang pala ako, iyong mga amoyong ni Caparas ay salungat rin sa inyo, pero hindi ako nabayarang amoyong ni Caparas, ni hindi ko kilala itong si Caparas.

Pang-anim, ikaw yata ang wala na sa huwisyo dahil ginagawa mo pa akong devil’s advocate, mabuti nabanggit mo ito. Alam mo ang storyang ito tungkol kay Satanas dahil alam ng mga katoliko ito. Alam mo rin na ibinibigay ng ILLEGAL na diyos-diyosan si Satanas ang AWARD NA LAHAT NA KAHARIAN SA MUNDO kay Jesus, si Satanas rin ang promotor ng AWARD na ito. Kung tinanggap ang AWARD na ito ni Jesus ay magiging LEGAL na diyos si Satanas ni Jesus. Ang AWARD rin na ito ay hawig sa NATIONAL ARTIST AWARD na si Marcos ang promotor na pagtinanggap ng sinuman ay magiging LEGAL ang pagka-presidente ni Marcos nuong martial law. Pag-isipan mong malalim itong AWARD ni Satanas na GINAYA ni Marcos dahil hanggan ngayon ay inuulol pa rin nitong si Marcos ang mga pilipino kahit patay na ito.

Pang-pito, TAMA KA sa sinabi mo na pinapayagan mo ang opposing views dito, pero ulitin ko, MALI KA dahil hindi ko sinabi na DIKTADOR ka, basahin mo uli iyong sinabi ko sa nakaraan post ko.

Pang-walo, ulitin ko uli, PUWEDENG SALUNGATAN ANG MGA IDEYA AT GAWA NG SINUMANG TAO, PERO VERY RUDE, DISRESPECTFUL AT UNPROFESSIONAL KUNG PERSONAL NA NA BASTOSIN ANG PAGKATAO NITO NA KAGAYA NG GINAWA NINYO KAY CAPARAS, CHARACTER ASSASSINATION ANG GINAGAWA NINYO. Pinayagan mo itong pambabastos ng iba dito kay Caparas. Ito ang NUMERO UNONG DAHILAN kung bakit denidepensahan ko ang taong ito kahit na hindi siya karapat-dapat.
Robby Villabona on September 5th, 2009 5:11 pm

“Pang-walo, ulitin ko uli, PUWEDENG SALUNGATAN ANG MGA IDEYA AT GAWA NG SINUMANG TAO, PERO VERY RUDE, DISRESPECTFUL AT UNPROFESSIONAL KUNG PERSONAL NA NA BASTOSIN ANG PAGKATAO NITO NA KAGAYA NG GINAWA NINYO KAY CAPARAS, CHARACTER ASSASSINATION ANG GINAGAWA NINYO. Pinayagan mo itong pambabastos ng iba dito kay Caparas. Ito ang NUMERO UNONG DAHILAN kung bakit denidepensahan ko ang taong ito kahit na hindi siya karapat-dapat.”

Floro Dery,

I have to say it straight (unless you accuse me of being “paikot-ikot”) — you are one gargantuan HYPOCRITE. Anyone who’s read your posts at PKMB knows you have no equal when it comes to hurling personal insults and ad hominem arguments when confronted by someone who challenges your ideas.

It is quite surreal to see you lecturing people not to be rude, disrespectful, and unprofessional. I suppose next you’ll be teaching us lessons in humility, right?
Gerry Alanguilan on September 5th, 2009 5:15 pm

Ser Flor. Thank you for using your real name. Please carry on.

On that last comment, I agree with Robby wholeheartedly (which doesn’t happen that often). He’s another example that refutes your claim that I don’t tolerate opposing views in this blog.
Karl L. on September 6th, 2009 12:31 am

If you ask me who I think should be held accountable for this outrage, it’s Malacanang’s so-called Honors Committee.

Shouldn’t they have been the ones to reach out to the public (or at least to the arts community) and justify their choices and addition of names to the list? Who were the people that comprised this committee anyway? Can anyone name them? And please tell us that a certain Mr. Caparas and a certain Mrs. Guidote-Alvarez were never part of this committee. Have they shown any initiative to iron out this issue? Or have they all feigned sickness and fled abroad to “rest and recover”?

Shame on Malacanang’s Honors Committee, for bypassing the selection process and ignoring the selection guidelines of the NCCA and the CCP, for dropping Ramon Santos from the list, (someone who underwent the proper selection process) and then shamelessly adding four more names instead of only one as is the accustomed “presidential privilege”.

Shame on Malacanang’s Honors Committee, (despite its recognition of Komiks as a true art form unlike the NCCA-CCP joint committee) for failing to include in their shortlist of komiks creators (if such a list ever existed) the names Coching, Alcala, Ravelo and lots more, all of whom advanced the medium to a greater extent and paved the way for the “success” Carlo J. Caparas now enjoys.

Shame on Malacanang’s Honors Committee, for failing to justify their actions to the public and thereby spurring Mr. Caparas to go on television to appeal to the masses and justify himself worthy of the National Artist title (and its accompanying financial benefits). And I’m quite sure that promoting his upcoming movie starring Manny Pacquiao and his recently bared plans of running for senate had absolutely nothing to do with the decision to go on TV.

A lot of things can be said about the actions of Carlo J. Caparas. But it should be the members of this Honors Committee that ought to stand before the Supreme Court and the nation.

It’s another matter entirely how Guidote-Alvarez could accept the title when she is the NCCA executive director and thus ineligible or how Caparas could accept the title for Visual Arts when being recognized for Literature would have validated his (komiks) career. That one’s more a question of integrity and character. I guess you take what you can get.
Pinoy Comics USA on September 6th, 2009 3:06 am

Karl L.
Ditto, if there really is an Honors Committee. Seems to me it was created after the fact.

Gerry,
Itong si Anak ni Kapre with his colorful language and all is a fixture here and in PKMB. MAS MASAYA!
Dr. Dery,
Kailan ba tayo magmi-meet? Magkapit-bahay lang tayo e hindi pa tayo nagkikita ng personal. Baka nagkakabunguan na tayo sa Post Office, Ikea o Porto’s, e hindi kita kilala.
Floro Dery on September 6th, 2009 3:49 am

Robby Villabona,

huwag mong BALIKTARIN, ikaw ang nagpaikot-ikot sa akin ng mga walang katuturan mong mga katuwiran sa message board ni Gerry na ang dahilan ay NAPIKON ka.

Pumasok ka sa thread ko duon na ang tema ay WALANG PURIHAN sa DRAWING, pero gusto mong PURIHIN ko ang gawa mo. Ng sinabi kung ang drawing mo ay parang DINOSAUR na malalaki ang balakang at paa pero tingting ang mga braso ay NAPIKON ka. Dapat nagpasalamat ka sa akin at nalaman mo ang MALI MO. Pero HINDI mo pa rin binabago ang MALI MO, sa halip ay gusto mong gumanti sa akin at pinaikot-ikotan mo ako ng mga KABUANGAN mong mga katuwiran.

Hindi ako interesadong patulan ka, AYOSIN MO MUNA ANG DRAWING MO.
Floro Dery on September 6th, 2009 4:59 am

Gusto kung ma-EMPHASIZE ang TATLONG AWARDS dahil may relasyon ang mga ito sa LEGALITY at MORALITY ng NATIONAL ARTIST AWARD, pag-isipan ninyo ito ng mabuti at malalim.

Una, si Sartre ay TINANGGIHAN NIYA ang ibinibigay na AWARD na NOBEL PRIZE sa kanya dahil kung tanggapin niya ito ay ginagawa niyang LEGAL ang gawa ni Alfred Nobel at HINUHUGASAN rin niya ang mga kamay nito sa dugo ng mga milyones na namatay na mga tao dahil sa imbento nitong si Alfred na dinamita.

Pangalawa, si Jesus ay TINANGGIHAN RIN NIYA ang AWARD na ibinibigay sa kanya ni Satanas na LAHAT NA MGA KAHARIAN SA BUONG MUNDO dahil kung tanggapin ni Jesus ito ay ginagawa niyang LEGAL na diyos niya si Satanas at HINUHUGASAN rin niya ang mga kamay nitong si Satanas sa dugo ng bilyones na namatay na mga tao sa buong mundo na si Satanas ang may pakana.

Pangatlo, wala akong alam na mga pilipino na tumanggi sa NATIONAL ARTIST AWARD, walang prinsipiyo kasi ang mga ito. Pero ang sinuman na tumanggap ng AWARD na ito ay ginagawa niyang LEGAL ang mga gawa ni Marcos na siyang pasimuno sa AWARD na ito, HINUHUGASAN rin ng tumanggap ng AWARD na ito ang mga kamay ni Marcos sa dugo ng daan-daan namatay na mga tao nuong panahon ng kanyang ILLEGAL na Martial Law. Iyon ngang iba ang akala ay commendable daw itong NATIONAL ARTIST AWARD ni Marcos. Baka pagdating ng mga araw ay gawin nilang SANTO itong si Marcos. Hindi malayong mangyari ito dahil iyong ngang murderer na si Tsar Nicholas ay ginawa ng santo ngayon sa Russia.

Batay sa tatlong hawig na mga AWARDS sa itaas, ang tanong ay ito, ANO ANG LEGALITY AT MORALITY NG SINUSUPORTAHAN NINYONG NATIONAL ARTIST AWARD?

Pag-isipan ninyo ng malalim at sagutin sa mature na paraan at hindi sa batang katuwiran dahil itinuturo ng tatlong AWARDS na ito ang mga BUTAS sa inyong mga ARGUMENTO. Tatamaan nito kayo, pati si Caparas, kung hindi kayo maingat sumagot.
Robby Villabona on September 6th, 2009 11:27 am

I rest my case. The Floro Dery pattern is when confronted by a winning argument, attack the author’s motives and character.

Perhaps Floro, not everyone here is just “sunod-sunoran”. In fact I agreed with your “visual-writer” theory and disagreed with Gerry on that matter. Perhaps many here disagree with you on account of simply being sane.
Jose Mari Lee on September 6th, 2009 12:47 pm

Supremong Kapre:

Ang problema kasi sa usaping ito, in the beginning, Marcos was duly elected by the Filipino people. Dumaan siya sa proseso ng election na kung saan siya nakalabas bilang presidente.

Nang mag-re-election siya against Sergio Osmeña, natalo niya si Osmeña. Well-known na DINAYA niya si Osmeña, saan ka naman nakakita na ang CEBU ay teritoryo ni Osme, tapos, ZERO ang boto sa mga iba’t-ibang presinto? Osmeña (ridiculed by the Nationalista Party as KENKOY), lost the election and Marcos became the elected president again.

Morally, he was not an ideal person to sit in power because he cheated.

Unfortunately, man is a political animal. Our civilization says that whoever is duly elected by the people, becomes the leader. And politically, it was Marcos. In the eyes of God, he was illegal. But in the eyes of man, the political man, he is legal. He was duly elected by the majority of the Filipinos. And the wholesale cheating was never proven, thus, he was the legal president.

When he became a megalomaniac, he decided to remain in power. With the blessing of Uncle Sam, he declared Martial Law. It was unfortunate for the Filipinos, but in our constitution, MARTIAL LAW is amongst the power a president can use to restore order in the country.

It was terrible that because of this declaration, the Filipinos’ writ of habeas corpus was suspended. Many went to prison just like that. Morally, it was wrong. But politically, Marcos was legal. He used the power he is entitled to in the constitution.

In the eyes of many Filipinos, Marcos was not their president anymore. Maybe some of the things he did were against the eyes of God.

But politically, he was still the legal president.
He was originally elected by the people, he used political clout to defeat his political enemies even by using fraud, he used the power he was entitled to as president by declaring Martial Law. Many might have hated him, but at the end of the day, he was still the legal president. Whatever he did as President, it was politically legal. It was part and parcel of his power as president.

Sad, but true.

Hence we cannot mix the virtues of religion with politics. The only thing we can do is: “Give what belongs to Caesar to Caesar… and God what belongs to God.”

But, since we’re living in a democratic nation, we have the right to protest. And this is the reason why I side with the protesting group. People are entitled to it. It is politically right to do so.
Gilbert Monsanto on September 6th, 2009 2:04 pm

Mang Flor,

Maganda po yung sinabi niyo na tinanggihan ni Jesus si Satanas at si Sartre ang Nobel. Tama po kayo dun kasi po, di sila naniniwala sa mga nagbibigay sa kanila at illegal ang dating nila.

Sana nga marahil ay alisin na muna ang National Artist award. Tapos sa Legal na Pamahalaan, ay magumpisa ulit sa simula ng isang tunay at legal sa National artist awards para po malinis ang simula. Tama po ba ako sa pagkakaintindi?

Sa tingin niyo po, after this coming election, lahat na ng sisimulan dun ay all legal na?

Salamat po.
kc cordero on September 6th, 2009 2:26 pm

CARLO J. CAPARAS: “Dapat hindi bakla ang mag-direct niyan!”

Translation:

CARLO J. CAPARAS: “Dapat hindi AKWO ang mag-direct niyan!”
Whilce Portacio on September 6th, 2009 2:28 pm

As Mel Brooks said, It’s good to be the King!” ;)
Robby Villabona on September 6th, 2009 7:26 pm

Mr. Dery,

For your info, here’s what the Philippine Constitution of 1987 has to say about protests:

“Section 4. No law shall be passed abridging the freedom of speech, of expression, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble and petition the government for redress of grievances. ”

Doesn’t say anything about “you’re allowed only to protest if your theme is legal.” The only requirement is it’s a peaceful action.
Ferres on September 6th, 2009 11:32 pm

“Alexis’ girlfriend Nika went from a country that’s number 73 (Slovenia) to a country that’s number 8 (the Philippines). Had she stayed in her country she might still be alive. The sad thing is she was scheduled to leave the next day for Slovenia.”

It is sad for everyone that could have been touched by their presence. The world is poorer by their loss.

I don’t know the true circumstances of how things happened…

But based on studies, men will instinctively stand their ground when their female partner is present regardless of the danger.
Fermin Salvador on September 7th, 2009 9:45 am

Magaganda ang istorya sa likod ng pagtanggap at hindi pagtanggap sa Nobel Prize. Si Einstein ay isang babaero at may mistress gayong may legal na asawa at anak. Para pumayag ang kanyang asawa na mag-divorce sila ay sinabi ni Einstein na kapag napanalunan niya ang Nobel Prize sa Physics, na ayon sa kanya ay “in the bag na”, ibibigay niya ang premyong salapi. Kaya hindi pa siya napipili ay pambayad-utang na ang kanyang Nobel Prize.

Kaya nga sabi ko, kung payak na plake lang ang NA award, magpapatayan kaya para rito? Baka may mga mapipiling NA na gagamitin pang oportunidad ang pagkakapili para tumanggi bilang dramatic protest sa martial law/rehimen ni Marcos. Pero matalino si Marcos kaya talagang NILAKIHAN niya ang premyo. Sobra-sobra ang PRESTIGE na inilagay niya rito at lampas pa sa mga nae-enjoy ng mga poet laureate sa England at US. Kaya lang, magkaiba sila ni Alfred Nobel. Si Nobel ay galing sa sariling kayamanan ang ipinangtatag sa Nobel Prize habang si Marcos ay pera ng taumbayan ang itinaya sa NA awards.

At kung susuriin, ang ibang bansa ISA lang ang national artist pero ang Pilipinas sangkaterba. Gayong nangungulelat naman tayo pagdating sa antas ng sining at panitikan. May Nobel Prize awardee na ba na Pilipino? O naging strong contender man lang? Tinalo pa tayo ng Peru, Colombia, etc. na mas nagugutom ang mga tao.

Ang dapat unahin muna ay kung paano maibabalik ang sining at panitikan sa MISMONG KALULUWA NG BANSA natin bago ang paramihan ng karangalan.
Robby Villabona on September 7th, 2009 5:28 pm

I think it’s a sophomoric view of history to render the output of an entire regime as good or evil. As much bad there was during the Marcos regime, there were also positive stuff.

I tend to think of the National Artist award as one of the positive stuff. I think it’s really nitpicking to find fault with the entire recognition program. It brings to public attention the work of distinguished artists, and can serve to inspire the next generation. Lahat naman ng award process may intriga, selosan, gulo, etc. — but it doesn’t mean the whole thing is bad just because you don’t like the President who created it or you don’t like one of the winners.

Another positive contribution of the Marcos rule was the baranggay justice system — widely recognized worldwide as very effective tool in swiftly administering justice for simpler to handle cases.

Masagana ’99 was another program that actually made the Philippines a net rice exporter (albeit breifly).

So there you have it — this argument that participating in the output of an “illegal” government means you legitimize their rule is hogwash, and has no practical application in the real world.
Pinoy Comics USA on September 7th, 2009 10:48 pm

Fermin,
When you’re talking about Marcos, are you referring to the former President or Imelda? Wasn’t Imelda the one who was involved in the arts? Marcos the president had more problems keeping in power during Martial Law than the arts. The NA award may have come from her with the approval of the President, was that not the case? I really don’t know.
Rod
Jose Mari Lee on September 8th, 2009 1:42 am

Rod:

You’re right, indeed. It was Imelda’s idea, not Ferdie. Imelda loved the arts, and sincerely, I must say. True, Marcos’ regime had brought havoc to his political enemies and glory to his cronies, but like Rob said, it also did some good things. We may have lost some freedom, such as: saan ka nakakita ng Board of Censors, na bago makagawa ng isang pelikula, SCRIPT pa lamang kailangan may APPROVAL na. Turned out that it wasn’t Marcos’ idea, but the one running the board himself was trying to make PASIKAT to the the powers that be and suggested that it should be done this way. Nag-cha-charge pa ng approval fee.

I also agree that awards or honors should be given to deserving artists. Pero make sure na ang mga lupon ng hurado ay mga experts sa field na ito, may integrity (hello, Miss Alvarez?) at talagang alam ang mga ginagawa nila.

Wala akong pitagan sa mga awards na ibinibigay ng kung sinu-sinong pilato lamang na hindi naman nakakaintindi sa linya ng arts na pinakikialaman nila. Halimbawa, a group of board socialites na naisipang maggawad ng award na parang FAMAS award gayong ang pre-occupation lamang nila ay mag-party, magkipagsosyalan at ibuyangyang ang kanilang kayamanan sa mga less fortunate masa. Bakit ka tatanggap sa ganitong klaseng award? Noong 1970s, maraming TV awards na ganito ang pinagmulan kaya hindi ako bilib sa mga iyon.

Pero iba ang National Artist. Dapat itong siyang pinakamataas na na honor na puwedeng ibigay sa mga truly deserving artists.

Hindi talaga dapat ito sa isang “massacre” artist, lalo pa’t twice rejected ng lupon, tapos nakasama through dagdag-bawas, na mukhang nagigigng brand na yata ng administrasyon.

Kaya nga nagwala ang mga miron. Kasi, isipin mo nga namang, mayroong sports even. Yung mga participants ay lahat magagaling. Tapos, pagdating doon sa finish line, ang nanalo ay yung hindi naman kasal sa laro. Di ba foul ito?

Ngayong namamayani ang DAGDAG-BAWAS kesyo sa election man o sa gawaran ng NA, hindi na siguro tama na magpatuloy ang ganitong mga pangyayari. Talagang FOUL na ito at dapat lang na magprotesta tayo.
Fermin Salvador on September 8th, 2009 9:52 am

Nagkakaisa kahit ang mga eksperto sa political science ngayon na ang pagpapasimula ni Marcos ng barangay government ay isang “brilliant idea” at may historical basis sapagkat pre-Spanish period pa ay nag-e-exist na ito. Kaya hindi niya ito sinimulan kundi “ibinalik” lamang. Pero sa off the records na diskusyon, ito rin ay naging isang “brilliant” na instrumento para sa kanyang diktadura at batas-militar. Sa pamamagitan ng barangay (at hindi sa regular na eleksiyon) na-ratify ang kanyang 1973 Konstitusyon na tailor-made sa pangangailangan ng kanyang rehimen. Bata pa ako noon pero lantaran ang papel na ginagampanan ng barangay sa tuwing may mga eleksiyon at hanggang sa huling sandali ni Marcos sa poder, pagsumpa niya sa Malacanang matapos ang snap election, ay puro barangay officers pa rin ang kanyang audience. Pero sa ibang bagay, gaya ng pag-resolve ng maliliit na isyu sa kumunidad, sadyang kapaki-pakinabang ang barangay.

Tungkol naman kung si Ferdie o Imelda, Rod, kasi minsan hindi mapaghihiwalay ang pulitika sa sining. Kahit si Hitler ay may official filmmaker na tagalikha ng kanyang propaganda para sa master race. Maaaring nag-usap sina Ferdie at Meldy (ang kategorya ng diktadura nila ay tinawag na “CONJUGAL” ni Primitive Mijares na dati nilang tauhan) na si Imelda ang bahala sa propaganda aspects(na kasama siyempre ang arts & culture) at si Ferdie sa all the rest.

Kaya ang magandang itanong: nile-legitimize o bina-validate ba ng NA award/order ang pagiging artist ng mga recipient nito? — o baka THE OTHER WAY AROUND, kailangang gamitin ng mga Marcos ang mga artist para ma-legitimize/ma-validate ang kanilang Bagong Lipunan?
Jose Mari Lee on September 8th, 2009 12:45 pm

“Kaya ang magandang itanong: nile-legitimize o bina-validate ba ng NA award/order ang pagiging artist ng mga recipient nito? — o baka THE OTHER WAY AROUND, kailangang gamitin ng mga Marcos ang mga artist para ma-legitimize/ma-validate ang kanilang Bagong Lipunan?”

Fermin:

Itong arts, halos di nakialam si Ferdy kay Meldy. He-he. Alam ko, CAPRICHO ito ni Meldy, pero, maganda ang kinalabasan dahil napahalagahan kahi’t paano ang ating mga deserving artists sa bansa. Yun ding Manila International Festival, walang input si Ferdy doon, si Meldy at ang kanyang PR office, mayroon. When she was heading the Metro Manila affiars, she only slept 3-4 hours a day. We were all witness to this. She really worked hard to make Metro Manila shine. The Manila International Film Festival was a big success and placed Manila as one of the major film fest capital. I mean, it is nothing compared to the Toronto Film Festival which is the biggest filmfest in the world, but at least it tried to catch up with the Cannes film festival. Smaller, but nevertheless prestigious. For the first time, the Board of Censors were BANNED from tinkering with any of the entries. Quite historical, I must say.

Unfortunately, it had a black eye that bothered the international film community, especially after Ferdy was removed from power and the horrific accident while the film center was being constructed was revealed to the whole world.

I know for sure that Meldy loves the arts (with sincerity). And if through naming National Artists benefited them politically, I can’t say for sure.

But, either way, I am glad that our deserving artists were finally recognized.

And that’s what matters to me most.
Floro Dery on September 8th, 2009 3:17 pm

Gilbert,

NAKUHA MO ANG PUNTO KO.

Ngayon, kung sa susunod na election ang mananalong presidente sa LEGAL AT MALINIS NA HALALAN, WALANG DAYAAN, ay magiging LEGAL na ito, at ang authoridad niya ay LEGAL rin. At kung ang mga gawa niya ay ayon sa mga batas, suportado ng LEGAL na senado at suportado rin ng majority ng mga tao na para ito sa KABUTIHAN NG LAHAT, ang administrasyon niya ay meron MORALIDAD.

Kung halimbawa ang isa sa mga pakanang gawa niya ay pasimulan uli at baguhin ang NATIONAL ARTIST AWARD na meron bagong patakaran ito, ang bagong AWARD na ito ay meron ng LEGALITY at MORALITY dahil ang foundation na nito ay meron rin LEGALITY at MORALITY.

Ang malungkot lang sa Pilipinas ay si Cory lang yata ang matinong presidente. Meron isang naging ILLEGAL na presidente, KURAKOT at MURDERER pa, meron isang ILLEGAL na KURAKOT at iyong iba naman ay mga LEGAL nga pero mga KURAKOT rin. Hindi pa sinusunod ng mga KURAKOT na ito ang mga batas.
Robby Villabona on September 8th, 2009 3:57 pm

“Kaya ang magandang itanong: nile-legitimize o bina-validate ba ng NA award/order ang pagiging artist ng mga recipient nito? — o baka THE OTHER WAY AROUND, kailangang gamitin ng mga Marcos ang mga artist para ma-legitimize/ma-validate ang kanilang Bagong Lipunan?”

Like many things in this world, it’s probably both. But seriously, how much legitimacy is added by this compared to, let’s say, the 1972 Constitution? I’d say the NA award is 99.99% artist recognition and 0.01% legitimacy enhancer.

It’s impractical to think in terms of a regime as totally evil or totally good. Think about Cory — for all her personal moral goodness and unifying persona, she was at best, a not-so-competent administrator (remember the 10-hour blackouts? direct result of mothballing the BNPP without putting up an alternative).
Francis Lim on September 8th, 2009 10:29 pm

Hello,
This is Francis Lim from Butuan City. It is indeed gratifying to see such passion and fervor in our discussion regarding the recent NA controversy. I do not know Mr. Floro Dery personally but like many comics artists I am familiar with his body of work and its significance to Philippine comic arts. I am impressed with Mr. Dery’s passion and idealism, for it is more typical that we become more pragmatic or jaded as we age. However, with Mr. Dery’s viewpoint, I feel we may have entered an area of discussion better left to historians, theologians and lawyers. So with your kind indulgence, allow me to tell a short story. In Iligan City, we have the Maria Cristina Falls, it is a majestic and grand waterfall. And right beside it is a massive hydroelectric power plant. There are at least seven or eight such power plants all along the length of the mighty river. These plants supply the entire power needs of Mindanao. The general manager of these power plants personally took us through one of these. It is an engineering marvel, just one of the metal shafts powering the dynamos weigh tons, it is nearly five or six feet thick. The force of the water going through the dynamo is so strong, that it makes the shaft spin so fast that all you can see is a blur. Now, that plant manager has been there for nearly or more than thirty years, and he told us that ever since the first EDSA revolution, there has been no further enhancements nor improvements done for the Agus hydroplants. In fact, there was already another hydroplant that was to be constructed in 1986, but it was never continued. These power plants are a testament to the talent, creativity and ingenuity of professional Filipino and American engineers. To this very day, these machines that are nearly 20 to 30 years old are still doing an amazing job. Mounted on the wall of the building is a bronze plate that bears the names of President Ferdinand and Imelda Romualdez Marcos.
Fermin Salvador on September 9th, 2009 10:43 am

Francis,

I’ve seen Maria Cristina Falls and also the Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo museum, the house where she spent her childhood was converted into a museum. There was a time in my life when I regularly travel back and forth from Cagayan de Oro to Iligan or the so-called Cagayan-Iligan Corridor. I also used to travel back and forth from CDO to Davao via Butuan City (about 12 hours one way) or via Buda (about 8 hours one way). I was amazed by what I saw in Iligan which was sort of a “city of steel” because of the towering steel plants that are powered by the mighty hydroelectric of Ma. Cristina. It’s all according to the plan to industrialize the Philippines. But something went wrong along the way. By heart, I’m an artist first and foremost. Being so, I’m against any form of destruction. I despise Marcos but I do not agree when his “infamous” giant bust was dynamited reportedly by NPA operatives. Oftentimes, the Filipino sense of vengeance does not spare works of art. Have you heard about the epics about the Marcoses written by so-called “first-class writers” commissioned by the Marcoses themselves? I would like these to be read by future generations too.
Jose Mari Lee on September 9th, 2009 12:18 pm

“Oftentimes, the Filipino sense of vengeance does not spare works of art”

Same thing happened to the Vicente Manansala mural called Inang Bayan, a figuration of motherland in the lobby of the Phil. Heart Center for Asia. The main image have some similarities to Imelda, where she is shown hugging the poor. He-he.

After EDSA I Ang unang plano raw ng mga advisers ay SIRAIN ito! %O

Mabuti na lang at hindi nakinig si Cory. Kinurtinahan na lang ito – para hindi na makita ng mga papasok sa building. Poor Manansala!

But, throughout world history, same reaction has been recorded again and again.

Parang… meron yata nagsabi ng: “WEATHER-WEATHER lang iyan!” Nakabigote yata ito pero walang baseball cap at dark sunglasses.

Har-har-har.
auggie on September 9th, 2009 12:22 pm

Rob,

Right On ! we gotta accept the good with the bad, otherwise, how could we move on? With regards to St.Cory, the dictum , THE ROAD TO HELL IS PAVED WITH GOOD INTENTIONS, was very apt. The feud between the Leftists and Rightists in her cabinet was of epic proportions ( remember the suicide of Ongpin ?)and of course the KAMAG-ANAK INC. was legendary. I don’t think Noynoy will make a difference too, if he becomes president. I think he lacks the Cojones of a Lee Kwan Yew or a Mahatir.
Robby Villabona on September 9th, 2009 6:20 pm

Auggie,

Nagsisisi siguro si Korina bakit di sila nagtagal ni Noynoy… mukhang nag Presidentiable-hunting talaga, but then wound up with the early quitter.
auggie on September 9th, 2009 10:15 pm

Rob,

Mr.PussyFoot, doesn’t really have a chance. See his awful Ads ? Sino ba ang nag-conceptualize noon? Mr. PussyFoot driving a Pedicab ? excuse me….
All these wannabees are just really Smokes & Mirrors.
But I have heard it thru the grapevine that a really formidable duo is shaping up: Richard Gordon, and Manny Pangilinan, a really kick-ass team.
Floro on September 10th, 2009 5:53 pm

Iyong mga MABUBUTING GAWA pala ni Tsar Nicholas ay iyon lang ang madalas palagi banggitin, kinalimutan na iyong mga MASASAMANG GAWA nito, at ang resulta tuloy ay ginawa na itong si Tsar na SANTO na sinasamba ngayon sa Russia.

Ang mas grabe ay ang PINAKAHAYOP na tao sa buong mundo na si Nimrod, ito ang nagtatag ng kauna-unahang organisadong relihiyon, itinatag rin nito ang kauna-unahang organisadong politika at kauna-unahang organisadong komersiyo, at pinag-isa rin niya ang tatlong ito. Hanggan ngayon ay GLOBAL pa rin ang contribution nitong si Nimrod pagdating sa relihiyon, politika at komersiyo. Sa huli ay ginawang DIYOS ito ng mga Canaanites at sinamba nila ito sa pangalan BAAL o TAMMUZ. At hanggan ngayon rin ay meron pang sumasamba kay Nimrod bilang SUN GOD, ipinagdiriwang rin palagi ang birthday nito sa Decenber 25.

Itong si Marcos rin ay unti-unti ng nakalimutan ng mga pilipino ang KATARANTADUHAN mga gawa nito, iyong binabanggit lang palagi ay iyong mga MABUBUTING mga gawa nito na ang isang halimbawa ay ang ILLEGAL na NATIONAL ARTIST AWARD. Darating ang araw ay baka gawin rin itong si Marcos na SANTO na sinasamba ng mga pilipino, at SANTA naman si Imelda. At iyong higanting bulto nitong si Marcos na ngayon ay tourist site lang ay malamang gawin pilgimage holy site pa ng mga pilipino pagdating ng araw.

Sa China ay meron isang HAYOP na emperador, ng mamatay ito ang ginawa ng mga intsik para hindi makalimutan ang mga gawang kahayupan nito ay ginawang IHIAN PUBLIKO ang libingan nito. Dapat ginaya ng mga pilipino sa intsik ang gawang ito ngayon, gawin nila ang higanteng bulto ni Marcos na KUBETANG PAMPUBLIKO. Tama rin ang ginawa ng mga NPA nuon ng pasabugin nila ang bultong ito ni Marcos para mabura ito dahil ang bultong ito ay PANDURO ni Marcos na walang katapusan sa dignidad ng mga pilipino.
Ferres on September 10th, 2009 7:04 pm

“Ang mas grabe ay ang PINAKAHAYOP na tao sa buong mundo na si Nimrod”

Indeed, one of the oldest example of character assassination. All negative portrayals of him comes from only one source, written by his enemies.
Floro on September 11th, 2009 2:24 am

MALI ang pakaalam ng iba sa inyo tungkol kay Nimrod! Ang isa sa nagkalat sa storya ni Nimrod ay si Josephus na kinupya niya mula sa Talmud, popular na historian kasi ito nuon. Ang storya ni Nimrod at ang kahayupan mga gawa nito ay nakasulat rin sa Bibliya. Mula rin sa Talmud ay kinuha ng mga simbahan kristiyano ang storya ni Nimrod kung kaya meron celebrasyon tayo ngayon na Christmas sa December 25. Ayon rin sa Talmud, itong si Nimrod dahil sa kahayupan nito ay pinabalatan ng buhay ni Shem.

Nabanggit ang AWARD ni Satanas sa Bibliya at si Nimrod dahil WARNINGS ito sa mga tao, lalo na ang kay Nimrod, dahil kung hindi maingat ang mga tao ay gagawin nilang mga SANTO at DIYOS-DIYOSAN ang mga TARANDONG TAO.
Ferres on September 11th, 2009 6:32 pm

I would consider the Bible and the Talmud as a single source since they come from the same people who had their own agenda. They borrowed heavily from predominant Babylonian/Sumerian sources.

In the original Sumerian source, he wasn’t such a bad guy for his time. Many scholars believe him to be Gilgamesh.

Satan is an evolution from the original al shaiten(the adversary), the equivalent of a Jinni (the guys in the lamp). Not a good guy but not as bad as he’s currently portrayed. Putting this into context, the ‘Great Satan’ would mean the ‘Great Adversary’.

“dahil kung hindi maingat ang mga tao ay gagawin nilang mga SANTO at DIYOS-DIYOSAN ang mga TARANDONG TAO.”

Agreed. What I’m saying is the opposite can be true as well.
Jose Mari Lee on September 11th, 2009 11:52 pm

From Caparas to Erap – and now to Satan.

Are they all in the same league?

Hahaha!

For me, Satan is the great divider. He thrives in dividing people. He divides marriages, families, people of a nation, a country against another country. He even divided paradise and heaven by convincing Adam & Eve and the rebellious angels to defy God.

So if we’re going to put keywords to describe Satan, rest assured that the word “divider” should be there. We can also include: “pride” (because he’s not capable of any humility whatsoever “I am entitled to this award, I deserve to get this”); and he’s also a master of obscurantism (“I’m a visual artist, I can draw. Look, ‘ma, these are my drawings”).

This coming election, expect a lot of obscurantists amongst the candidates. Watch for their “trick and no treat” approach to winning the elections ;)

You might even be better off voting for BELZEEBOB to get the real McCoy.

And who knows? Maybe Satan divided us all in this National Artist award issue? The Devil must have made Arroyo do it to declare a national artist that many artists despise and do not recognize.

Well, we could only wait for the final judgment, but not from the Supreme Being above us, but from the Supreme Court right within our midst.

And let’s hope that the judgment will not cause the dead National Artists to get up from their graves like the way George Romero’s NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD (1968) did – so they can feed on the TAXPAYERS of their 100,000 pesos per annum. Mwe-he-he.
auggie on September 12th, 2009 9:43 am

JM,

That’s right, the coming election is all about Smokes & Mirrors. And the typical Filipino voter will again MAGOGOYO ng manipulations of the giant MEDIA NETWORKS, both print,broadcast, and the PR-Lobbyist groups, Surveys kuno, which is very misleading ( depends on who is bankrolling the surveys) and the religious groups who have a very strong clout among the faithfuls. I hope the voters, particularly the young, would be more discerning and analytical in their choices. VOTE FOR THE GUY WHO CAN REDEMPT US FROM THIS QUAGMIRE OF POVERTY & HUMILIATION, and not for their Papogi points and good soundbytes. Look for the tangible TRACK RECORDS.
Fermin Salvador on September 14th, 2009 1:00 am

Ikunekta muna natin sa topic na “pagpapatayan sa kapirasong karangalan” (read: NA award/order).

Ngayong papalapit ang panibagong milestone na gaya ng halalan: ano ang maitutulong ng MATITINIK NA ALAGAD NG SINING para sa ikasusulong ng bansa at lipunan, maski sa aspeto na lang ng kamalayan ng mga mamamayan?

Di kaya ang mismong mga alagad ng sining kabilang na ang mga Legal Artists ay handa na rin sa KANI-KANILANG PAKSIYON at sasamahang mga PULITIKO at LAPIAN? May alam akong grupong napapadalas na ang pagtoma sa mansiyon ng isang pulitikong kunektado sa isa sa mga naglalabanang lapian.

Di kaya magsisipaghintayin na lang kung sino ang mauupong pangulo at “back to business” — na ang ibig sabihin ay awayan na naman para sa clout at karangalan (including, of course) ang susunod na bigayan ng Legal Artist award/order.

Hay, mga “alagad ng sining”!
auggie on September 14th, 2009 12:58 pm

Korek ka diyan Pareng Fermin! sa isang kultura na TAYO-TAYO, SILA-SILA, at walang kamuwang-muwang sa ideya ng NATIONAL INTEREST at KABUTIHAN NG LAHAT, hindi rin naiiba ang mga Artists sa kanilang narrow self-interests. In other words, SELF_AGGRANDIZEMENT din ang mga iniisip ng mga Hinayupak na iyan.
Karl L. on September 16th, 2009 10:17 am

Sir Gerry:

Just in case this one went under the radar:

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/nation/view/20090914-225224/Existence-of-Palace-honors-body-questioned
Gerry Alanguilan on September 16th, 2009 10:52 am

Thanks Karl! I’ve been following the news and will make an update soon on what’s currently happening with this case.

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